The legacy of Obamacare
For the true legacy of the affordable care act, go to the U.S. Department of Health/Longevity and see the results for yourself. Life expectancy did not increase in 2013 or 2014 and actually decreased in 2015. Every year since World War II, lifespans have_increased. This is what the billions in new taxes and the upheaval of our health system has bought us.
Repeal it – it is killing us!
Bob Rickman
Benicia
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Would you be able to provide a citation? I looked for the U.S. Department of Health/Longevity, and nothing showed up. All I found relatively close was the CDC. There, while the death rate increased, when adjusted for the increased elderly for the year, there was a record low for death of those below the typical mortality age.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/life-expectancy.htm
“Source: Deaths: Final Data for 2014”
The important thing about the LTTE was he got you thinking.
Thinking about what? Made up statistics? I don’t love universal healthcare. Honestly, we’d be better cutting most generalized social programs. I do, however, have enough faith in tue doctors, nurses, and other staff throughout the U.S., and the fact is they keep more people alive and healthy every year.
If you are not Medicare and sometime will be you will Love Kaiser. It is great. If that is what you chose. Staff model. Now start thinking.
“If you are not Medicare”? What does that mean? Are you saying if I am on medicare? Personally, I think we should cut medicare completely, like the rest of welfare handouts.
You are mistaken and confused. Medicare is a fully funded program by the employee and the employer. Except for about 8% which is the prescription part D. Never was part of the original Medicare. Medicaid is a federal and state funded program. That is where your confusion comes in. I am offended that you would say that Medicare is a welfare program. That just shows you do not know what you are talking about.
That’s the same excuse people give for yhe Social Contract Theory in regards to welfare. If people want to be prepared, they can certainly save up for the future. If Medicaid didn’t exist, people would simply have more money to use the way they wanted, rather than have it taken from them just so a bureaucratic organziation can decide when and where they can use their money. To ask for a program to take your money and “give it back to you later” is exactly how liberal social programs work. The program was founded by a liberal president, after all.
It is your confusion that is the issue. You appear not to know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid. Your comment confirms your confusion.
No? Perhaps you need some reading comprehension. Medicare is a fully funded program by the employee and the employer. Except for about 8% which is the prescription part D. ”
Aside from the fact that you admit an 8%, if you really are footing your own care, why do you need a program at all? Explain to me why you need Medicare, rather than being given the money put into it up-front. Do you trust those who run Medicare more than yourself with your money?
Medicare was and is meant for the folks over 65 years old. Since its inception many things have been added. Prescription drugs was one of them. You know what Part D is?Medicare advantage is when you turn your Medicare over to someone like Kaiser. to manage your healthcare. They are funded by funds from Medicare. They give more than M\edicare does and must give all medicare gives at the same time. Medicare is a cost saving system that makes your Medicare dollars go further. It is not a social program it is a benefit paid for by contributions from the employee and employer. except for the 8%. If you knew anything about Medicare you would also know that many competing Healthcare company’s did have prescription drugs before part D. Some as high as $2,500 a year. Medicare is great program that maybe some day you will understand that..
One question that should be asked regarding the ACA is this: Did the act achieve its stated goals?
Below are some quotes from a Pro ACA article from 2011:
“The most important aim of the Affordable Care Act is to save money on health care costs and provide affordable medical insurance to everyone living in this country.”
“To bring down the cost of individual health insurance, state exchanges will be established. These exchanges will provide a free market that makes it easy for consumers to shop for the most affordable medical insurance for their needs”
“To ensure individual health insurance companies put their premium income back into patient care rather than lining their own pockets, the government will hold individual medical insurance companies accountable for their actions.”
“When health care is on a more stable financial path, the country’s economy will follow suit. The Affordable Care Act is expected to reduce the deficit by more than $100 billion over the next 10 years.”
I cannot imagine anyone who could honestly say that the ACA has achieved the desired goals.
Looks to me like Obamacare is heading in the right direction.
“Remember, when government messes up, when it shuts down, when it fails to address the things that matter to most people — economic opportunity, wage stagnation, affordable college — and, instead, squabbles about Planned Parenthood, the winners are those who can say: “See? We told you. Government’s broken!” Never mind that those making that case are the ones doing the breaking.
But with Obamacare, they’ve been failing, and the more we elevate that case, the closer we get to the road back to Factville.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/09/21/the-success-of-the-affordable-care-act-is-a-hugely-inconvenient-truth-for-its-opponents/?utm_term=.85879869f445
OK, Jane, I’ll bite. In your own words tells us which of the primary goals stated above is Obama care moving close to achieving?
One of the big issues that is never discussed is the push of many folks into Medicaid. It then makes more folks available for subsidized healthcare. It then puts a huge burden on the states. In most cases it is a 50/50 share between states and government. Factory in that cost which does not reduce cost put raises it and can destroy many state budgets simply by the huge raise in Medicaid the state must pay for their side. In California it is not peanuts.